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27/04/2020 23:14:55
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arnhem2280
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Hi
I wonder if anyone can help me. I am looking for a good copy of the above group photo. The only copy I have seen is in a magazine which unfortunately does not have the original. The copy they used is not of a good enough standard to correctly identify faces that are in it.
If anyone knows of a good copy of the group photo in question please could they contact me as I am very interested is seeing one.
Any help or information on where one could be would be gratefully received.
I have tried to attach the copy I have but for some reason the site won't let me do it. As soon as I can work out how to I will post it for people to see.
Cheers
Arnhem
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28/04/2020 09:34:20
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mike beckett
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arnhem2280[img] kindly posted me a copy of the image - I will try to attach it here ... here's hoping it works for us - Mike
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28/04/2020 18:23:58
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Pete
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I have just found what looks like the same photo held by the Grenadier Guards and available on their shop although they have it listed as 1 Troop :
https://images.grengds.com/1939-1949/no-1-troop-no8-middle-east-commando-september-14748814.html?prodid=80872
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Pete Rogers, son of LSgt Joe Rogers MM & nephew of TSM Ken McAllister. Both No2 Commando.
God and the Soldier, all men adore, In time of danger and not before.
When the danger is passed and all things righted, God is forgotten, and the Soldier slighted.
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28/04/2020 18:52:00
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mike beckett
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Many thanks Pete - that is great ... it is historic and appears to command a good price.
The composition of No.8 Commando troops is listed on page 190 of 'The War Diaries of Evelyn Waugh' - edited by Michael Davie.
If correct - Waugh notes them as mainly being of 'regimental composition' as follows:
1 - Household Cavalry
2 - Grenadier Guards
3 - Coldstream Guards
4 - Scots Greys
5 - Irish and Welsh Guards
6 - Composite (called 'Buffaloes' by Toby Milbanke who led them)
7 - S.L.I. (Somerset Light Infantry)
8 - Composite (led by Godfrey Nicholson)
9 - Line Cavalry
10 - Specialists (Royal Engineers, Royal Artillery, Royal Marines)
Note the ten Troop structure when Waugh joined the Commando at Largs - I think Nov 40 - so must be at the time Nos 3 and 8 Cdos were being paired within 4 Special Service Battalion
Many thanks - keep safe
Mike
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28/04/2020 22:59:30
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arnhem2280
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Hi Pete and Mike,
Thanks for the information. I will order a copy of the photo and start trying to identify the faces on it.
Cheers
Arnhem
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29/04/2020 07:04:14
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mike beckett
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Hi Pete and Arnhem - just seen there are several options to buy the image framed or not.
Thanks Arnhem for making us aware the image existed, and Pete for tracking it down.
I have contacted the Grenadier Guards to ask them to check the narrative is correct - it says 1 Troop No.8 Cdo, not No.2 Troop - which is incorrect according to Waugh. All the best - Mike
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08/05/2020 08:49:06
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Alan Orton
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Without wishing to be pedantic if that is the correct term the picture on the Web site that Pete found names them as (Middle East Commando) when really it should be (Guards).
It is still an excellent find.
Alan.
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08/05/2020 10:10:30
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mike beckett
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Alan - you are right of course. It is also a bit disappointing that the image in labelled 1 Troop rather than 2 Troop of No.8 Commando - An error acknowledge by the Grenadier Guards, but apparently not easy for them to fix. Good speedy service though and a good clear image. Thanks for the alert by Pete. Hoping everyone is keeping safe and well.
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