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23/11/2020 10:59:18
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Martin Chambers
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Hello I?m new to this site and I am trying to find information about my Grandad?s cousin who was called Sydney Colley but also called himself Sidney. I understand he served in both 4 and 6 Commando during World War 2 but after the war he broke off contact with his family in Hull. My Dad traced him to London just recently where he died in 2005. If anyone has any information, photos etc that would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time, Martin
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23/11/2020 15:51:49
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NIC
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Hi Martin,
Did your Grandad's cousin [I think that makes him your First Cousin Once Removed] have a middle name?
I have a record of someone with the surname 'Colley' serving in No.6 Cdo & No.12 Cdo...
Nick
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Nick Collins,
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Proud son of Cpl Mick Collins, 5 Troop, No5 Cdo
"Truly we may say of them, when shall their glory fade?"
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23/11/2020 16:09:10
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Martin Chambers
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Hi Nick I?m afraid he didn?t but his Dad was Arthur Colley who served in WW1 as a tank driver. Sydney came from Hull if that helps?
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23/11/2020 18:15:13
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NIC
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Hi Martin,
The Colley I have a record of was Pte S. A Colley so it's possible this is Sydney/Sidney - if he was named after his father...
I don't suppose you know his peace time occupation or his parent regiment (all commandos were on loan from their parent regiment whilst they were in The Commandos).
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Proud son of Cpl Mick Collins, 5 Troop, No5 Cdo
"Truly we may say of them, when shall their glory fade?"
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23/11/2020 18:48:17
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GUY
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HI Nick & Martin,
Could this be Sydney?
Sydney A. COLLEY born 11th November 1919, he is an accounts department clerk residing at 36 Mayfield Street, Hull in the 1939 Register.
Sidney COLLEY 11th November 1919 - 3Q 2005 Camden, London
His father:
James Arthur COLLEY 31st May 1891 - 3Q 1979 Hull
There is an entry for him on the No.6 Commando site, stating that he was Army Dental Corps and served with 6 Troop, 6 Commando.
Guy
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24/11/2020 11:49:27
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Martin Chambers
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Hi Guy - thank you very much. Sydney was an accounts clerk at the Co-Op in Hull so I think he is the same person and I think his mother?s maiden name was Pederson. If you have any info I?d appreciate it. Many thanks!
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24/11/2020 11:51:06
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Martin Chambers
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Hi Nick thanks very much. I recall some mention of him being in the dental corps originally so I think we have the right Sydney. If you have any information that would be great!
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24/11/2020 13:07:13
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GUY
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Hi Martin,
Sydney A COLLEY born in 1919, his mother's maiden name was Pedersen
James A COLLEY married Florence M PEDERSEN 3Q 1917 Sculcoates, Yorkshire
Florence M COLLEY born 1896, died in Hull in 1931 aged 35.
Guy
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24/11/2020 13:51:42
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Martin Chambers
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Thanks very much, Guy this is the same Syd. His Mum died of TB. If anyone has any knowledge of what he did, photos or what happened to him between demob and his death in London it would be great! It?s a sad family mystery unfortunately and we never knew what happened to him - he broke off all contact including his Dad (my Great Uncle Arthur Colley) who was devastated at his disappearance- we never knew what we did wrong to him.
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24/11/2020 14:04:10
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Martin Chambers
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Sorry if I sound stupid, Guy, but how do I access the records for 6Troop, please? Many thanks, Martin
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28/11/2020 15:30:11
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Martin,
Nick found a reference to S.A.COLLEY serving with both 12 & 6 Commando.
12 Commando were disbanded and the men were cross posted to other Army Commando units in August 1943.
6 Commando returned from North Africa and were billeted in Hove, Sussex prior to D-Day.
Do you have a photograph of Sidney that you could cross reference with Troop photographs in the gallery?
http://gallery.commandoveterans.org/cdoGallery/v/units/12/
http://gallery.commandoveterans.org/cdoGallery/v/units/6/6+Cdo+panorama+copy+copy.jpg.html
The war diaries for 6 Commando in Normandy are available to view on this website:
https://www.pegasusarchive.org/normandy/frames.htm
Guy
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29/11/2020 07:19:59
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Martin Chambers
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Hi Guy and Nick thanks very much for coming back to me.
I?m afraid we don?t have any photos, sadly. Once the war finished he disappeared and didn?t even say anything further to his Dad, Arthur. A huge mystery and a hole in the family, sadly.
Cheers 👍
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29/11/2020 07:33:08
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Hi Nick and Guy I?ve had a look at the photos and what I?ll do is to contact the Clan Cameron Museum who own the large photo as this would be my best shot.
Thank you for your help and if anything comes to mind please let me know.
Cheers 👍👍
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29/11/2020 10:25:26
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NIC
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Hi Martin,
I see you have viewed the photos, but did you realise that you can see an enlargement of the panorama of the group photo?
Once you have opened the link t6o the photo, CLICK on the photo again to see a much enlarged photo - then scroll left to right etc...
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29/11/2020 10:45:51
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Martin Chambers
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Thanks, Nick - I?ll let my Dad have a look to see if he can recognise Syd once this virus has passed.
I?ve also tried to email Mr. Muir at the Clan Cameron Museum to see if he has any names but the email didn?t work. I?ll have to try another method to contact him.
It may be of interest; Syd?s Dad, my Great Uncle Arthur, was a tank driver in WW1. The experience broke him, however, and he could never work inside a building again. He died in the late ?70?s.
Cheers 👍
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