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05/08/2013 23:02:24
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beerie89
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Can anyone decipher the words on 9/8/43? Trying to find out where grandad was posted here Im assuming it was abroad somewhere but dont know what that means
Disembarked Joins 2.Tch is it?????
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05/08/2013 23:38:05
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beerie89
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Sorry attachment attached this time!!
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06/08/2013 20:28:58
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NIC
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" Disembarked Join 2nd Ech"
ie. - Disembarked to join the 2nd Echelon
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Proud son of Cpl Mick Collins, 5 Troop, No5 Cdo
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06/08/2013 21:08:23
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beerie89
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Cheers Nic
Next question what was the 2nd Echelon & where was the unit, im assuming it was overseas as it says disembarked then embarked Uk again 6 months later, any ideas?
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06/08/2013 21:36:54
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Any ideas what the 2nd to last line is all about on the attachment (pg 8) the Ends LUCA........
Also on pg 9 from 27/12/44 to the end, can anyone put that into plain English?
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07/08/2013 00:55:42
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NIC
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beerie89 wrote:Any ideas what the 2nd to last line is all about on the attachment (pg 8) the Ends LUCA........
Also on pg 9 from 27/12/44 to the end, can anyone put that into plain English?
Thanks
"Ends LUCA at 6d per diem and RA at 4d p d"
Ends LUC Allowance at 6d per day and Ration Allowance at 4d per day [sorry, I can't think what LUC stands for at the moment!]
Give me time to transcribe page 9 and I'll come back to you tomorrow.
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07/08/2013 01:02:08
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beerie89 wrote:Cheers Nic
Next question what was the 2nd Echelon & where was the unit, im assuming it was overseas as it says disembarked then embarked Uk again 6 months later, any ideas?
Cheers
There was a RM 2nd Echelon, MNBDO II operating as part of the MEF - could be this.
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07/08/2013 02:40:56
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Hi beerie89
I notice from your grandad's service record at the end of 1944 whilst he was in HBL RM Commando, his CO was W W Glover, the same as my father's who was in MNBDO1 and prior to that your grandad was at HBL RM Training Group. Maybe they might have come across each other. Unfortunately, I cannot help with your other questions as I am still learning myself but wish you good luck with your research.
Best wishes
Sarah
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07/08/2013 22:51:47
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beerie89
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Hi sarah
Indeed they may have, do u have any pics of your dad with his commrades at all? I have a couple u never know they may have done their training together.
Good luck with your research aswell.
Phil
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07/08/2013 23:54:39
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Hi Phil
Added link to Dads details with some photos and service docs.
Best wishes
Sarah
http://www.commandoveterans.org/cdoForum/posts/list/3376.page
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08/08/2013 09:23:42
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Phil,
Here's the transcript as promised - hope it helps.
Regarding the 2nd Echelon, I see that he was posted to 2nd Echelon then later was posted from MNBDO II so my guess was right.
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08/08/2013 13:46:41
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Hi Nic
Im on a caravan site in skegness at the minute and the internet signal on my phone is crap, dying to read that doc but it wont let me download it!!!! Ill try and find a pub later with wifi.
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08/08/2013 16:41:13
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Hi Phil,
As a young airman - way back in the 70's - I was thrown out of Skegness (well Skegness Butlin's) and I've not ventured there again...
The part of your grandfather's records I transcribed (page 9) is, more or less, a repeat of the bottom of page 8 - just a little more detailed.
I'm still trying to work out LUCA and will crack it eventually.
HMS Byrsa was a Shore base at Naples.
197 Transit Camp was at Bari at one stage.
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Nick Collins,
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Proud son of Cpl Mick Collins, 5 Troop, No5 Cdo
"Truly we may say of them, when shall their glory fade?"
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08/08/2013 22:30:44
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beerie89
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Tried downloading on wifi still cant download it nick think its me phone will have to wait till sunday when im back home. Cheers tho nick.
Skeggy hasnt changed much by the way been coming since mid 80's still cheap n cheerful + the air displays (training lol) from the tornados, typhoons & f15's is pretty impressive stuff.
Phil
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08/08/2013 23:29:09
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beerie89
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Another thing thats niggling me is that grandad qualified as a commando may 44 joined 40 cdo went into action sept/oct 44 wounded oct 44 then after recoup in hospital assigned to hms byrsa, does that mean he ceased being a commando then ie left 40 cdo & we.t back to being just a royal marine?
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