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22/12/2012 16:14:57
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mikeysaling
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Hi there, In the process of gathering together items to be framed with my fathers medals - I have purchased a FS Commando dagger made by William Rodgers. I'm not that happy with it and wonder if anyone has a recommendation for something of better quality - I have looked at Scorpion version - which looks to be a bit better (and a bit more expensive but not OTT) . I know that what i get will be areplica so does anyone have the name of a manufacturer or supplier that i can consider. (i'm prepared to pay up to £200.00)
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22/12/2012 17:25:16
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Vlewis
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Hi Mike,
PM you regarding some ideas..
Regards Vic
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22/12/2012 19:53:30
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Belly
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My personal view is McDonald Armouries makes the best replicas by far. Paul is on here too and is very active in the Commando community!
http://www.macdonaldarms.com/armoury/FairbairnSykes.php
If you upped your budget up a little more you can still pick up reasonable non-Wilkinson original 2nd patterns for around £300
cheers
Paul
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22/12/2012 20:09:30
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mikeysaling
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Thanks Paul - have just been looking at the Mcdonald knives - very impressive - I'm gonna get a quote to include some personalisation on the blade. Not sure I'd be happy with someone else's F S in the frame (so i think i'll give dad a new one) . As I frame medals and militaria as a retirement 'hobby' i know many folk (collectors mainly) prefer original items but for a personal family record i prefer a replica that can be displayed and dedicated to dad - I don't think he would appreciate someone else's FS.
So - I'm re-equiping our family hero with new kit - and hopefully - monogrammed
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23/12/2012 02:58:16
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Kevin
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Mike,
I'd go with a replica (Paul's recommendation) and as you mentioned in your posting you can include some personalisation on the blade.
You know what you've got and you won't get stung by buying an expensive forgery, there's so many ringers out there, I tend to buy commemorative knifes, can be a bit expensive, but harder to be stung.
Good luck with your display
Kevin
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23/12/2012 10:31:12
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mikeysaling
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Thanks all for comments/suggestions - very helpful. SO - I have asked for quotes from mCDonald and Scorpion although i think i prefer the Mac copies (difficult to tell just by a photo) but I'll post the results and tell you which i'm going for. The one piece of information I'm missing is what badge(s) he would have had on his right sleeve (my wartime photos only show the left) - so if anyone can help with that i'd be obliged . To recap he was in No 2 - 4 troop. Whether it's material or not I don't know but when he 'joined' the Commando's direct from the Police, he nominated the essex regiment.
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23/12/2012 10:48:36
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Belly
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Hi Mike
Both sleeves would have been the same late 43 onwards: 'red on blue' (although they actually look black) shoulder title (for some reason in 2 Cdo they always seemed to cut the word 'No.' off, I don't know why) above a round combined ops badge, which as Nic pointed out in your other post came in sided pairs, ie they tommy gun should always face the front.
Cheers
Paul
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05/01/2013 19:42:32
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bootiegreg
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Mike,
I have in the last two days, taken delivery of a MacDonald Armouries 1st pattern FS dagger. To say I'm over joyed is a massive understatement. The workmanship and attention to detail is amazing and I absolutely love it. Crafted just as the originals were - by hand!
I'm not familiar with the scorpion maker however, it looks to me like they only do 3rd patterns.
Suppose it also comes down to what type of dagger your father was issued; if that is known.
Good luck in what ever you choose, but you really wouldn't be disappointed with one from MacDonald Armouries.
Greg.
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05/01/2013 20:22:10
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bootiegreg
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And in another note; on looking at the scorpion website; I personally don't like their wasp style handles. As far as I am aware, this style of handle was never produced. For me, this would detract too much from the originals. Im in the early stages of collecting FS daggers and would never myself buy one from scorpion based on their website and lack of attention to detail.
If a third pattern is what you would like, Nowill & Sons still produce MoD spec fs daggers with MoD broad arrow stamp. I had one issued to me for Afghan and is now framed up. You can get them from good army surplus type shops ie. http://www.survivalaids.com/order1.php?pg=1007
Much cheaper than Scorpion and is from an actual commando issue dagger. Downside is they can't etch blades.
Just my 10p worth.
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05/01/2013 21:08:10
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mikeysaling
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Cheers for that Bootiegreg - latest from me - Just ordered from Macdonalds a 1st pattern (maynot be historically accurate for dad, but - he deserves thebest) . So Its a 1st pattern Nickel plated with scroll engraving as follows
L/Cpl E A G Cant (PC) - No.2 Commando - 4 Troop
The (PC) was his nickname in the troop!! he was a pc in essex police.
It will be several months (6) before i get delivery but i'm sure it will be worth the wait.
The Knife will be included in a frame with his medals and some other patches - so far I have a 2 shoulder patches a combined ops patch (2 of these L & R) and photo.
If anyone can think of anything else that should/could be included please please post a note here.
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06/01/2013 08:46:11
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bootiegreg
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If you know when your father went through Commando training, you could ascertain what type of dagger he was issued.
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