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19/07/2017 16:22:10
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jeffery williams
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The uncle in question is Sgt Iorweth Cyrus Thomas. The only other information was that he was either in the 3 or 4 commando was captured by the Italians on a raid for a short time and was in most of the raids. Other than that nothing tried the google search and nothing so any help would be great. Thank you for your time.
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20/07/2017 10:23:21
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Pete
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Hello and welcome
Do the family have anything that relates to his Commando service, a letter, document, association membership card, image with Commando insignia visible?
if there is nothing on our online archive, and your extended family have no more, then the next step would be for the immediate next of kin to apply for a copy of his Service Record. How that can be done is listed below. If as you say he was 3 or 4 Commando then they were Army Commandos so complete the relevant Army forms as well.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/request-records-of-deceased-service-personnel
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Pete Rogers, son of LSgt Joe Rogers MM & nephew of TSM Ken McAllister. Both No2 Commando.
God and the Soldier, all men adore, In time of danger and not before.
When the danger is passed and all things righted, God is forgotten, and the Soldier slighted.
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20/07/2017 13:23:38
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NIC
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Hi Jeffery
You say that your uncle was in either No.3 or No.4 Cdo and was captured by the Italians?
That would point more in the direction of No.3 Cdo rather than No.4 who didn't get to fight the Italians.
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20/07/2017 14:10:38
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GUY
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Lance Sergeant Iorweth Cyrus Thomas enlisted in the Royal Artillery in 1940. He volunteered for Commando training and joined 3 Commando.
He was a Section Leader in 6 Troop, 3 Commando and landed in the second wave at Agnone on 13/14th July 1943. The objective of the landing was the capture of Punta Dei Malati, which carried Highway 114 over the Leonardo river.
When 3 Commando's position became untenable due to heavy German counter-attacks, they were forced to make a fighting withdrawal from the bridge.
Your uncle was taken prisoner during this withdrawal on the morning of the 14th July.
He was initially sent to Capua 66 and was then transferred to Stalag IVB Mühlberg, Germany. He remained there until liberated on the 17th April 1945.
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20/07/2017 14:18:30
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NIC
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Good work Guy.
any idea of the service number?
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20/07/2017 15:27:51
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GUY
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Hi Nick,
Sorry, I forgot to add that!
1654813 L/Sgt. Iorweth Cyrus Thomas Royal Artillery (H.A.A.)
Guy
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20/07/2017 15:28:45
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jeffery williams
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Thank you very much for all your replies. For GUY we knew he had been put in a consentration camp for trying to escape but little more than that. So again GUY thank you for that information and your time.
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20/07/2017 16:06:38
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NIC
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As usual, Guy's source of information is credible and I have added Iorweth Thomas to the No.3 Commando Nominal Roll.
http://www.commandoveterans.org/3CommandoNomRollO-Z
Nick
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Nick Collins,
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Proud son of Cpl Mick Collins, 5 Troop, No5 Cdo
"Truly we may say of them, when shall their glory fade?"
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20/07/2017 19:03:30
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Pete
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What is the source of this detailed information ?
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Pete Rogers, son of LSgt Joe Rogers MM & nephew of TSM Ken McAllister. Both No2 Commando.
God and the Soldier, all men adore, In time of danger and not before.
When the danger is passed and all things righted, God is forgotten, and the Soldier slighted.
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20/07/2017 22:50:43
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Pete
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Hi Jeffery, Guy and Nick
Thanks for all the information. I have now created a bio page for LSgt Thomas and it can be viewed here: http://www.commandoveterans.org/IorwethThomas3Commando
If there is a photo of Iorweth please scan and attach it as a response to this message.
Regards
Pete
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Pete Rogers, son of LSgt Joe Rogers MM & nephew of TSM Ken McAllister. Both No2 Commando.
God and the Soldier, all men adore, In time of danger and not before.
When the danger is passed and all things righted, God is forgotten, and the Soldier slighted.
**** nb. I no longer monitor the pm facility **** |
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