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GrahamCooper
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Hi
While reading about No 4 Commando in the early part of 1942,I came across a reference to some sort of troop carrying ship/boat.
The ship/boat had no name ,other than HMS Z1.No 4 Commando sailed in her,departing from ARDROSSAN,Scotland on 22 Feb,1942, and after carrying out various training exercises on the Outer Hebrides group of Islands returned to ARDROSSAN on 2 March 1942.
I have tried the internet to find any details on HMS Z1.
Can anyone help.
Graham

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Peter Cooper
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I have found a series of 60 lighters that were given the prefix 'Z'. They were designed to carry tanks or lorries but I assume troops too. Also, Boom Defence Vessels had a 'Z' number. I have more info about these vessels if you require it.

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GrahamCooper
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Peter,
thanks for your reply,yes please for more information on the lighters,would these lighter allow a whole commando to be accommidated aboard ie sleeping,eating and general ablutions.I ask because I really don't know what type of craft a lighter is.
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Graham

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Pete
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I have spoken with Major Jimmy Dunning who was on this exercise as a TSM with No.4 Commando. He advises me that although he cannot recall the name of the vessel that they sailed on, he thought it would have had to be something similar in size to the Ulster Monarch, if not that ship itself. Only 3 troops went on the raid but they were accompanied by an HQ troop and some others. All troops would have been at full strength so getting close to 200 Commandos would have been involved with their kit.

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Peter Cooper
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I have been looking into these Lighters and have found that they were built 1943-44 which is too late for your search requirements. Will keep looking.

Son of Dennis Cooper, 1 troop 4 Commando.
GrahamCooper
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Hi,
Reading on I have discovered that the ships Captain of HMS Z1 is named as Commander FELL RN.

This I googled, and in www.uboat.net it shows that Cdr William Richmond Fell ,DSO,OBE RN, was the Captain of the LSI ,Prince Charles from Jan 1941 to Apr 1942,covering the period in question, so am fairly convinced that HMS Z1 is HMS Prince Charles.

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Graham

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Peter Cooper
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/alimarante/4547379876/
See the link above for a photo of HMS Prince Charles

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Andy Barons
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I was interested in your article and am trying to find information on the landings at Poros, Greec in 1944. My father, a Navy Sub Lt was seconded to the army to command one of the "Z CRAFT". He maintained that, because the vessel was going out of sight of land, a naval officer was required on board. I pulled together a brief account and found a photo of a Z craft. Please see attached. I hope this helps identify the craft. I know that a number were despached from Taranto to Poros, as my father mentioned at least 2 other navy officers similarly seconded.

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Andy Barons
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I was interested in your article and am trying to find information on the landings at Poros, Greece in 1944.
My father, a Navy Sub Lt was seconded to the army to command one of the "Z CRAFT".
He maintained that, because the vessel was going out of sight of land, a naval officer was required on board.
I pulled together a brief account and found a photo of a Z craft.
Please see attached. I hope this helps identify the craft.
I know that a number were despached from Taranto to Poros, as my father mentioned at least 2 other navy officers similarly seconded.

Andy Barons
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