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Eileen
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Can anybody who has received these remember how they were delivered? Interlink are re-delivering a parcel tomorrow and I can't think of anybody who would be sending me something that couldn't be put through the letterbox ... except ...

Fingers and toes are well and truly crossed. Plays havoc with the typing though ...

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Sorry Eileen - just a plain, boring A4 brown envelope...

hope they arrive soon though as it will open a whole new world for you..

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I also enquired after medals that I know my dad didn't send for at the time.

Excited? Moi? Non! )

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As you were.

Part 2 of an order that hadn't been completed. Voluntary stuff.

Oh well ... I still have it all to look forward to! :)

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Everything comes to he/she who waits ... got them this morning!!! :)

One of the embarkments/disembarkments is crossed out ... I'm away to find out more.

Excited isn't the word!

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Great stuff ! Can't wait to hear what you find out.

The more I learn about the Commandos, the less I realise I know.

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Does anybody know where 10 Ind Coy went from 28.8.40 - 26.10.40?

Wherever it was, he sailed on M S Sobieski.

East Africa? Is that how he got his Africa Star? :)

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Another very good site I've stumbled upon is the WW2 Talk one - great for finding out about TA days etc. I've found that Dad was probably sent over to West Africa, Operation Menace ... and I think I've sorted out the Italy question.

The bit on the records I wasn't sure about was 'Re-classified 1a wef 15th Nov '43 til, I think, 18/1/44.

Anzio?

He was awarded the 1939/43 Star 18/4/44

By George (how apt) I think I've cracked it! :) No I haven't ... that's the Africa Star.

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Eileen,

If you need a hand to decipher the records, send me a scan and I'll have a look at them for you.
I normally explain all the acronyms, abbreviations and service jargon and transcribe them all so that they're easy to read.

Cheers,
Nick

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Thanks! Don't hold your breath though - I don't have a scanner these days so it'd have to wait til I visited my brother. Some of the sheets are A3 size ... some with very little written on them.

I've got the hang of the wording, mostly, but there's stuff in the left-hand columns that are to do with official use.

I reckon I've almost sussed the 'Italy' question. I can remember him mentioning a place with 'o' at the end ... was thinking Salerno - he was back home (I think) before Anzio.

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Eileen wrote: Some of the sheets are A3 size ... some with very little written on them.

I've got the hang of the wording, mostly, but there's stuff in the left-hand columns that are to do with official use.


Eileen,
The 'stuff' in the left hand column is Part II or Part III Orders - nothing really relevant to you, it just lists the authority of the event.

Part I Orders are short standing and published on a frequent basis (daily), they essentially dictate the routine of a Battalion or Unit on a day to day basis. Pt I Orders will contain, daily trivia such as those who are on duty that day, as well as parade timings and anything else that is deemed necessary, such as Out of Bounds drinking establishments, Doctors appointments etc. They are often superceeded by new Pt I Orders and will not appear on the Service Records.
An example of Pt I Orders is shown here:
http://gallery.commandoveterans.org/cdoGallery/v/documents/No5_Pt_1_Orders.jpg.html

Part II Orders are longer standing and are issued less frequently, they generally cover things such as pay, allowances, postings, promotions, absences etc.

Part III Orders are even longer standing and are normally identified by the order serial number and the year (ie 156/45).

The only problem I've experienced with service Records is that each 'clerk' had his own idea of abbreviations/acronyms/shorthand...
For example, some would abbreviate the Holding Operational Commando as HOC, others as HCO - this is an easy one to work out but others have me scratching my head for a while - especially as some of the handwritting left much to be desired which was made worse by the dreadful pens they had to use.

The offer is still open.

Nick

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Proud son of Cpl Mick Collins, 5 Troop, No5 Cdo

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