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28/11/2011 23:08:24
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NIC
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I am looking for any information on Geoff Hill, No5 Commando and KRRC.
A unique feature of the Achnacarry basic Commando course was the introduction of the 'Me and My Pal' principle, whereby every new Commando trainee teamed up with another; together they faced the course and its rigours as a team, albeit a team of two. Many of these friendships forged at Achnacarry even continued after the War.
I have learnt today that Geoff was the 'Pal' of my father, Mick Collins and, if possible, I would like to meet up with Geoff.
Nick
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Nick Collins,
Commando Association Historical Archivist & Photographer.
Proud son of Cpl Mick Collins, 5 Troop, No5 Cdo
"Truly we may say of them, when shall their glory fade?"
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28/11/2011 23:15:14
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Bob Bishop
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How wonderful, Nick. Good luck !
Janet
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10/12/2011 22:19:14
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NIC
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I've just had a fantastic early Christmas present - I've just been speaking to Geoff Hill, my late father's Commando Pal.
I'm really chuffed and I can't thank Julie W enough for her part in this.
My plan now is to pop down to visit him in Wiltshire and have a good natter over a cuppa.
I have to admit I'd given up hope of ever meeting anyone who remembered my father but now I'm ever hopeful of finding some 'new' photos of him...
My message to everyone out there is never give up hope - you just don't know when something might turn up.
Thanks again Julie (told you I couldn't thank you enough!).
Nick
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Nick Collins,
Commando Association Historical Archivist & Photographer.
Proud son of Cpl Mick Collins, 5 Troop, No5 Cdo
"Truly we may say of them, when shall their glory fade?"
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10/12/2011 23:42:36
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Julie W
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This is such fantastic news Nick. I can?t stop smiling for you!
Julie
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11/12/2011 20:50:30
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Jack.S.No1
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Hi Nick
As you know my father is also on this tape.When you meet Mr Hill would you be kind enough to ask him if he remembers anything else about my Dad. Many thanks. Elaine.
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Elaine -proud daughter of CSM. John (Jack) C H Southworth, M.M. (Sedjenane), No 1 Commando, 4 Troop and 1/5 Commando Burma |
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11/12/2011 21:01:25
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Fantastic news Nick, please pass on our regards to Geoff and let us know how you get on.
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Geoff
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11/12/2011 23:58:20
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NIC
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I can't stop smiling either Julie,
Yes of course I'll ask him about Jack, Elaine.
Thanks Geoff, although he isn't a CVA member (yet) he says he has heard good things about us.
Nick :D
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Nick Collins,
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Proud son of Cpl Mick Collins, 5 Troop, No5 Cdo
"Truly we may say of them, when shall their glory fade?"
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12/12/2011 20:40:04
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isnt all this really fantastic
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17/12/2011 16:26:55
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NIC
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Yes this is all fantastic.
I have just been sent a photo of Geoff and my dad and their pal Sid Lynn, taken in India early 1944.
http://www.commandoveterans.org/cdoGallery/v/units/5/Geoff_+Sid_Mick.jpg.html
All 3 were WIA at Maungdaw in Burma on 23 March 1944 when No5 were ambushed by Japanese as they went to the aid of a RA unit that had become bogged down.
No5 Commando suffered severe losses that day.
Sadly Sid Lynn subsequently died of wounds on 10 April 1944 and is Remembered with Honour in the Chittagong War Cemetery
http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=2180891
We Will Remember Them.
Nick
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Nick Collins,
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Proud son of Cpl Mick Collins, 5 Troop, No5 Cdo
"Truly we may say of them, when shall their glory fade?"
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17/12/2011 16:57:20
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Bob Bishop
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Wonderful Nick - Best Christmas present ever isn't it!
Janet
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17/12/2011 17:37:57
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NIC
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Janet,
As you know I've been waiting for something like this for so long...
There's so few photos of my dad - the only ones we know of are all in the Gallery - so I'm over the moon.
So, I know that there'll be more photos of Bob turning up soon.
Nick
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Nick Collins,
Commando Association Historical Archivist & Photographer.
Proud son of Cpl Mick Collins, 5 Troop, No5 Cdo
"Truly we may say of them, when shall their glory fade?"
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18/12/2011 01:27:19
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Pete
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Nick I am pleased you have made contact with Geoff. I know how pleased I was to discover Commandos like Bob Bishop and Eric Buckmaster who knew my father and uncle. How great to find a photo like that of your father, Geoff Hill and Sydney Lynn. I hope you find many more.
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24/07/2012 01:11:34
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NIC
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Just thought I'd update you all as promised...
The other day I called in on new CVA member Geoff Hill and his wife Brenda, in their home in Warminster, Wilts.
I was more than a little apprehensive and had put off the visit for a while but, after a little 'gentle persuasion' from Julie Warren & Elaine Davies, I knuckled down and drove down to visit my late father's Commando Pal.
I didn't tell them I was calling but was greeted at the door with delight by Brenda, Geoff's lovely wife.
"Guess who's here Geoff," she called.
"Colin," came the immediate response from Geoff in the conservatory. [For as long as I can remember people have got my first name and my surname mixed up, but Geoff just knew that it was me...]
So there he was, my father's Commando Pal - a mischievous old rogue with a twinkle in his eye, often saying things to try and provoke a reaction...
Geoff was wearing a tattered old peaked cap and on it was the Kings Royal Rifle Corps badge (complete with the originally scarlet, now very faded, felt backing) - Geoff had met my father at the recruiting office and this was the very badge he'd been issued with when he'd joined up.
"I must have known you were coming to visit," he said.
We had a good chin wag with 'Bren' butting in occasionally to 'refresh' his memory and correct him on a couple of points.
He told me why he joined the Commandos...
He and his mates (presumably including my father) had sneaked off camp to go to the local pub. On their return to camp they were discovered trying to sneak in to camp through a hole in the fence by their Sgt.
Geoff did not like that particular SNCO and described him in no uncertain terms...
"Well I hit him," said Geoff, in a matter of fact way, "So that was it, they were going to Court Martial me."
"Anyway, this was the weekend and on the Monday I looked at the notice board for Part 1 & Part 2 Orders and there it was: 'Volunteers required for Special Duties - report to such & such at 07.00hrs' and on the other board: 'Rfn G Hill report to such & such at 08.00hrs'."
"Well you can't be in two places at once, so I volunteered for Special Duties..." said Geoff with a wicked grin.
On the IWM interview, Geoff had mentioned, along with my father, Sgt Jack Southworth, MM, No1 Cdo and now Jack's daughter, Elaine Davies was anxious that I asked Geoff if he remembered her dad.
Both Geoff & Bren remembered Jack very well as, in the 1950s, Jack and his family had stayed with Geoff & Bren, for Christmas, in a flat near Hampstead Heath. So Elaine had already met Geoff but was too young at the time to remember.
Geoff had many amusing anecdotes to tell about him and my father and I thoroughly enjoyed the short time I spent with these two lovely people and promised that I would call on them again in the near future.
Nick Collins
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Nick Collins,
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Proud son of Cpl Mick Collins, 5 Troop, No5 Cdo
"Truly we may say of them, when shall their glory fade?"
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24/07/2012 11:05:28
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John M
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Nick
I am so pleased that you have traced and spoken to Geoff. I know how I felt when I met and spoke to comrades of my father. And when the photos started appearing it was fantastic. To see your father peering back at you from history in a photo is quite an awseome experience. In fact it was these events that gave me the idea for this site and it seems to be working. The photo's we have collected here is proof positive of a persons' relations 'army time' and it is thrillling to discover them.
The history, the bringing together of people, personal discovery and being able to research for a unique reward. That is what it is all about and, you, through this site, have helped that happen for countless other people.
I hope you find many more photographs and more info on your dad.
regards
john M
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24/07/2012 11:39:00
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NIC
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Thanks John,
I have to reiterate that the finding out about Geoff Hill and the meeting up with him is due to the fantastic research (and 'gentle persuasion') of Julie W. and I still can't thank her enough.
Something like this has got to give hope to the countless other folk out there that are desperate to find out a little information about their Commando relative - all I can say is don't give up looking, you never know what you may find.
Nick
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Nick Collins,
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Proud son of Cpl Mick Collins, 5 Troop, No5 Cdo
"Truly we may say of them, when shall their glory fade?"
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