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01/07/2018 17:09:14
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Andrew Sheldon
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Thanks Nick that's interesting. I'm waiting for my dad to sign the records forms at min but he is in italy. It would make sense I think that my grandfather would be in that troop as Lord lovatt used to use him as a runner. My grandfather was very fit and a fast runner. Anyway there is the possibility it is not him so I'll try and not get excited.
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05/08/2018 22:34:49
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Andrew Sheldon
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Front Page of John Robert Sheldon Service and Casualty form
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05/08/2018 22:38:27
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Andrew Sheldon
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05/08/2018 22:54:37
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Andrew Sheldon
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Hi there above I have posted my Grandfathers service records.
It has been interesting looking at these.
I now know
Service number - 2064169
My grandfather started his service in the Royal Engineers then the Royal Artillery and then the Commando's.
The back page of the records shows That he was Posted to No'6 Commando as my father thought but now at least we are sure.
I was also interested to see how many times he was in and out of hospital which was quite a few.
If anyone can shed any light on the description section at the bottom of the back page feel free it will be appreciated. (I am mainly interested in the part about the commando's)
In the letter my father received it said we could contact the MOD Medal Office. This will be of interest as apparently my grandfather was not really interested in his medals and we think did not receive them or apply for them somehow? Is this possible? Also it said we can use a researcher at the imperial war museum.
What we would like to do is track Commando No.6 through to the end of the war. In the next post I have a few stories.
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05/08/2018 23:15:05
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Here are the stories my dad has relayed to me:
My Grandfather said pre D Day he was on a ship below deck for 2 days possibly 3 by the look of his records waiting to ship to Normandy.
When exiting the landing craft on D Day his friend (S.J.BISELL) was injured (shot we think) and my grandfather put him back on the landing craft before heading up the beach. I think this was done quickly as he said he was first on the beach. Also he mentioned that there was a war photographer/ journalist on the Landing craft with them who was shot immediately when the front of the boat was opened. This may explain why I have found it hard to find a photograph with my grandfather on it.
He was a runner for Lord Lovatt relaying orders we think.
He was at the Pegasus bridge (not much info is known about this) I think around this time he was in a farm yard and there was a story about having to attack a tank.
He distinctly remembers a lot the commando's telling Bill Millin the piper that he should take cover. Everyone thought he was crazy.
My father remembers his father talking later on in the war having to guard prisoners of war. Some being involved in the concentration camps etc. He also had to guard houses of important people to stop them being looted.
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05/08/2018 23:19:40
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I think what I would like out of doing this research is to find a picture of my grandfather with his pals in the commando's. Hopefully I will.
I am holidaying in France in a few weeks and will be stopping off at Sword Beach and the Pegasus bridge.
Any help from anyone on the picture front will be amazing
Many Thanks
Andrew Sheldon
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05/08/2018 23:25:24
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NIC
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Hi Andrew,
Thanks for sharing part of your grandfather's records with us - I have now added his name to the No.6 Cdo Nominal Roll...
http://www.commandoveterans.org/6CommandoNomRollP-Z
The background to No.6 Commando's involvement in the War can be found here:
http://www.commandoveterans.org/6Commando
With links to some of their official War Diaries etc.
I will now upload the photo of your grandfather to the No.6 Cdo Album in our unique Website Gallery - if there are anymore we'd be happy to look at them with a view to upload them too...
Nick
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Proud son of Cpl Mick Collins, 5 Troop, No5 Cdo
"Truly we may say of them, when shall their glory fade?"
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05/08/2018 23:44:22
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NIC
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Andrew, the photo of your grandfather has now been uploaded to the No.6 Cdo Album...
http://gallery.commandoveterans.org/cdoGallery/v/units/6/?g2_page=2
If the MoD has suggested that your family contact the Medal Office, that would indicate that there are medals there that your grandfather was entitled to but never claimed. As this would be the first time your grandfather's medals will have been issued, there will be no cost...
Nick
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Nick Collins,
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Proud son of Cpl Mick Collins, 5 Troop, No5 Cdo
"Truly we may say of them, when shall their glory fade?"
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06/08/2018 08:25:44
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Andrew Sheldon
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Thank you for your response Nic. I am very pleased that his photo and name is now added to Commando no.6.
I will be contacting the medal office this week.
Thanks
Andrew
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06/08/2018 12:25:56
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NIC
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Andrerw,
I will have a look at his Service Records for you but I can already see that he admitted to an EMS (Emergency Medical Service) hospital in Sept '44 - although I haven't been to establish which one yet.
During the War, certain civilian hospitals were designated EMS - these were dotted around the country.
Maybe you know why your grandfather was admitted?
Nick
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Nick Collins,
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Proud son of Cpl Mick Collins, 5 Troop, No5 Cdo
"Truly we may say of them, when shall their glory fade?"
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06/08/2018 15:09:48
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Andrew Sheldon
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Hi Nic we are unsure why he was in hospital. This coincides with No.6 being on leave I think from what I read briefly this morning.
My Grandfather had no visible scars or serious injuries we know of. I wonder whether it was a kind of check up or he may have been dehydrated or something similar.
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06/08/2018 15:13:55
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Andrew Sheldon
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Nic do you know anything about S.J.BISELL. You called him Stan and sonny in an earlier post. I was just wondering.
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06/08/2018 21:26:56
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NIC
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hi Andrew,
I don't think your grandfather was wounded when he entered EMS - I think it's possible he may have had some serious illness...
As for Stanley Bissell - please see this link:
http://www.commandoveterans.org/BissellCommando
Nick
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07/08/2018 08:11:30
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Andrew Sheldon
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Do we know if Bissell was at D day?
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07/08/2018 08:13:22
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Andrew Sheldon
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We are not aware of any illness until his death in the early 80's
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